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Episode 2026 Transcript:

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Announcer

And now America's Healthcare Advocate, Cary Hall.

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Cary Hall

Hello, America. Welcome to America's Healthcare Advocate show broadcasting coast to coast across the USA. Here on the HIA Radio Network, you can follow us on our website. AmericasHealthcareAdvocate.com. You can also do that on Twitter, on Facebook. And we are on 15 podcast platforms across the country. Every one of these shows is posted on the podcast platforms and our own YouTube platform.

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Cary Hall

America's Healthcare Advocate with over 450,000 views. Thanks to all of you out there in the listening audience. And we're on 238 radio stations around the country, which we greatly appreciate that all of our radio partners across the country. And today, I want a little shout out to the KAPE, K A P E 1550AM and 95.1FM in Cape Girardeau, Missouri.

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Cary Hall

Here's a little piece of information you might not know about that station. That's the station that Rush Limbaugh actually started his show on. So the late Rush Limbaugh actually started out on the KAPE, in Cape Girardeau, Missouri. So we really do appreciate being on the air down there. 1550AM and 95.1FM. We want to thank them for becoming part of the America's Healthcare Advocate family.

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Cary Hall

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Cary Hall

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Cary Hall

All right. In studio with me today. This is a rare treat. I normally get a doctor to come in and do a show about a topic. I have two doctors today. So welcome doctors. Great to have you in studio with us today.

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Dr. Arden Andersen

Thank you very.

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Dr. Emilio John

Much. Thank you,

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Cary Hall

Dr. Emilio John is here with me and Dr. Arden Anderson. Both of them are here in studio today, and you know what we're going to do. This is an interesting show, and I've been wanting to get this show done for some time. And Steve Sanborn put this together for me and got the docs in here today. And what we're going to be talking about today is the treatments that are called PainLab and they're over in Lenexa.

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Cary Hall

But what the focus of this show is, how do you treat medical conditions without prescription medications or invasive surgical procedures? That's what we're going to talk about. You know, there's a lot of noise around this today. There are a lot there. You listen to radio. There's all kinds of advertisements, you know, talking about, we can do this or we can do that or we can do something else.

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Cary Hall

Well, we're going to give you some pretty good ideas today on a whole series of things that can be done at this practice PainLab over in Lenexa. And I think you're going to find it very interesting, but a little bit about the doctors first, doctor Emilio John is a chiropractor in Lenexa, Kansas. He's been in practice since 1990.

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Cary Hall

He has a degree from KU Services Administration and a bachelor of Science, Biological Sciences from Quincy University, Illinois. Prior to starting his practice, Doctor John played professional soccer across the United States. In Kansas City with the Kansas City Comets. So you may remember that was our old soccer team. And doctor, you were you were a well-recognized All-American soccer player when you were in college, wanted to play in the pros.

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Dr. Emilio John

Yes, I did.

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Cary Hall

And you're still able to walk and talk today.

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Dr. Emilio John

So so thanks to Neuro20.

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Cary Hall

And we'll talk about that. That's all we're going to talk about. So that that'll be a great topic. Doctor Arden Anderson is a PhD. He is a D.O. and MSP. PH is a family occupational medical physician. He is a board certified Prolo therapy and works both as an integrative family doctor and soil and crop consultant. Doctor Anderson is a holistic physician that possesses a unique understanding of the link between soil, human health and climactic issues, public health issues, and real preventative medicine, which we're really going to focus on.

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Cary Hall

A lot of that today. He is an author. He's written multiple books, Food Plague, Real Medicine, Real Health, Science of Agriculture, The Anatomy of Life and Energy in Agriculture. So well versed in what he does, we're very fortunate to have him. Welcome to the show, Doctor.

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Dr. Arden Andersen

Thank you very much, Cary.

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Cary Hall

So as I said, this is a unique opportunity for us to just kind of go into it, explore, and we're going to go through multiple different topics today as we talk about this type of medicine. But Doctor Anderson, let's just start off with a little bit about the overall thought process behind what brings PainLab together. The doctors that practice there, because there are multiple doctors there and the various therapies that are being offered.

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Cary Hall

Doctor.

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Dr. Arden Andersen

Absolutely. Well, PainLab really is a conglomerate of addressing. Primarily we're looking at neurological illnesses, issues, injuries. And my focus initially why I got involved was because of my own, concussions. I've had six concussions and two loss of consciousness, as well as my own back problems. I had back surgery in 2020, and a lot of that stemmed back from playing high school football as well as, some military activities.

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Dr. Arden Andersen

And so it was one of those things that, I'd been through all the standard care of addressing concussions, addressing injuries. And as I said, I ended up with, spinal surgery. But what I saw as well, and a lot of my patients is that we can drug them for pain and the opioid issue. Many people know about the opioid crisis.

00;05;46;01 - 00;06;14;04

Dr. Arden Andersen

You could go to surgery, and surgery is usually only a temporary fix. And I can tell you that from personal experience. And as well, then there really are very few other things that actually address Parkinson's, MS, Stroke, Brain Tumors, those kinds of problems that create then disability in patients as far as their life activities, maybe just simple walking.

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Dr. Arden Andersen

And so three years ago, I called because of the ad that Steve had in regarding concussion evaluation in, young people. And I was interested in myself. And that's where WAVi came in, which is an EEG system that was put together to specifically look at the P300 wave, which is just one wave in there that they look at.

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Dr. Arden Andersen

But it's a very indicative, frequency in the brain to look at overall functionality of the brain body interaction. And so we can tell just from that reading whether or not a person has had a concussion, whether or not they've recovered from their concussion, as well as perhaps any other problem that may be associated with that brain, body interaction.

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Dr. Arden Andersen

Well, then, okay, that's nice. You can identify that. But now what are you going to do about it as far as getting it evaluated? Unfortunately, standard medicine is either looking at implanting electrodes in the brain, brain surgery of some other type or some other kind of drug, which has all kinds of side effects and may or may not work, but eventually doesn't work.

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Dr. Arden Andersen

And so how do we actually regenerate the system? And so Neuro20 came on the scene. And that system is about stimulating what's called brain derived neurotrophic factor, which is a protein in the brain over time.

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Cary Hall

So this is a radio show hear, this.

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Dr. Arden Andersen

Brain derived neurotrophic factor.

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Cary Hall

And that means I don't have to pronounce that. That's why I ask him to do it.

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Dr. Arden Andersen

But that is a substance in the brain that actually stimulates regeneration of brain cells and nerve cells. And it wasn't that long ago, 20 years ago for sure. We didn't even believe it could be done to regenerate nerve cells. Ten years ago, we didn't believe it was possible to regenerate brain cells. We free up brain cells. Nope. Now we know we can regenerate brain cells.

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Dr. Arden Andersen

And so it's fantastic. We can actually regenerate damage in the brain with a body suit. And it's really kind of in reverse to what you would logically normally think, because most of the time if you got a brain tissue, you would think, oh, I've got to do something in the brain. But what we have found is Neuro20, through appropriate stimulation of the body, we actually cause a neuro regenerative process in reverse, back up through the central nervous system and back into the brain.

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Dr. Arden Andersen

Completely noninvasive. It's an amazing concept and it works.

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Cary Hall

And and so we're going to go to break here. But let's let's just leave it at that okay. It's an amazing concept. And as we come back, I'm going to ask Doctor John who actually uses the suit to talk about, remember he was a pro soccer player played in college. Okay. You can imagine he sustained injuries. He had other issues.

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Cary Hall

I'm going to ask him to talk about his experience with Neuro20, and then we'll carry on with some of the topics. Stay tuned. You're listening to America's Healthcare Advocate broadcasting here on the HIA radio network coast to coast across the USA. Don't go anywhere. The doctors are in the house.

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Dr. Arden Andersen

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Cary Hall

Welcome back. You're listening to America's Healthcare Advocate show Coast to Coast across the USA. My producer behind the microphone is Mr. Darren Wilhite, the man recording all of these shows who added some and post them all up on the YouTube channels and on the podcast platform. Mr.. Dave Thiessen, and we appreciate everything they do to keep the show on the air in studio.

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Cary Hall

To me, doctor Emilio John and Doctor Arden Anderson, they are here talking about PainLab. If you want to learn, maybe at first segment intrigued you as you listen to Doctor Anderson. The website is PainLabKC.com. If you want to call them, they're over in Lenexa. You can call them at 816-337-8558.

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Cary Hall

They do have an open house every, the first Thursday of every month from 3 to 6 in the afternoons, if you just want to go and maybe you want to go see what they do over there. What is this all about? Okay, that doesn't cost you anything if you're interested in that. And maybe you have an issue, that we're going to talk about some of these issues.

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Cary Hall

That might be a great way to explore it. So so, Doctor John, let's go to your experience. You were a professional soccer player. I'm guessing you came away from that with a few bumps and bruises and injuries. Yes. And and when I met you over at PainLab. And by the way, folks, I've been there, have been to the facility, that Steve runs with the doctors.

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Cary Hall

And it's really quite remarkable. I met Doctor John, and the first thing he told me was how great the Neuro20 suit was. And you heard Doctor Anderson speaking about that in the last segment. So, doctor, a little bit about your history and you know what the injuries you sustained and how the Neuro20 has affected you, doctor?

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Dr. Emilio John

Well, I've had several injuries, from hip to right knees, medial collateral and ACL and I've had concussion as well, but, probably what set me back was a condition called ATTR amyloidosis, which I was diagnosed with a few years ago about two years ago. And I've been I've been getting treated for that, but I've been lethargic for about 4 or 6 years where I couldn't figure out what was going on until they discovered that I had it, genetic disorder that, like I said, it's being controlled, but my lethargy was the worst.

00;13;06;02 - 00;13;29;27

Dr. Emilio John

And when Steve came to the, to our practice and they introduced the, Neuro20, or just really when they were talking about it, the front desk girls were going, Doctor John will be the first one to try. And so they diagnosed all my condition themselves. And I can tell you, since I started the very first treatment, my life changed.

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Dr. Emilio John

I was able to walk. My gait was different. I was walking faster. Now I'm still not where I want. I need to be. But tremendously improved. Now the other thing was an overall feeling of wellness. That is, I felt that for several weeks I've been doing Neuro20 since, I believe May. And yeah, those are two major things that have happened.

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Dr. Emilio John

And with the overall feeling of wellness, you get to understand the type of pain that you have been absorbing that you you just went along with. Even with pain medication, it was not being taken care of. Other little things that people may not think about. Like sweating for years, for a few years, maybe 4 to 6. Again, I wasn't sweating after I started using Neuro20 when I worked out, 2 or 3 times a week, I started noticing I'm sweating, which was unusual.

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Dr. Emilio John

Well, when I say unusual, it became it was already part of my life the past few years. So the changes, I didn't change anything but the Neuro20 and those are just a little bit.

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Cary Hall

So you mentioned, you know, the pain that you experience and, and that you were taking meds talk about. So I'm guessing now you're not taking the pain meds okay. Or if you are you taking on a much reduced level. So talk a little bit about that and what the impact of the Neuro20 suit and then I'm going to ask Doctor Anderson to describe.

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Cary Hall

the suit a little bit of a little talk a little bit about that, if you would doctor, I really.

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Dr. Emilio John

Wasn't taking pain meds a lot. I was doing other therapies. So for example, electrical stimulation, which you put four pads in an area which we use as chiropractors in comparison to the Neuro20, a humongous difference because this does it covers the whole body. Right. The other thing that I have seen in terms of my complexion is better.

00;15;33;23 - 00;16;05;08

Dr. Emilio John

My conjunctival. Is divided conjunct the right. No. Yeah. Because I I've been like that for over three decades and it just cleared the other thing I used to go, I'm I'm talking about how it's impacted my life. Right. In terms of I used to go to get a pedicure because I couldn't get down there. I've been doing my own pedicure for the past two months, so it may seem like a little thing, but that's huge.

00;16;05;11 - 00;16;35;18

Dr. Emilio John

It is huge. Those are those are a little side effects of the benefits of, Neuro20 flexibility. I'm more flexible and more agile, and also, in terms of I've been my training, now I'm training harder, I can go longer, more intense. I stopped coaching four years ago. I started helping out last week for the first time.

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Cary Hall

Wonderful.

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Dr. Emilio John

And so these are things that I just I wouldn't even dare think about doing.

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Cary Hall

The difference between doing the electro muscular stimulation with the Neuro20 and, you know, a set of paddles or something. The Neuro20 is basically looks like a diver's wetsuit. That's the best way that I can describe this.

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Dr. Arden Andersen

The suit actually does look like a wetsuit, only it has silver pads in and it has some silver threading on the inside of it as well. You put it on, after it's been wetted onto bare skin and then through the iPad you have whoever's running it, Steve, is typically, running it for us. You set the level of intensity of stimulation in various muscles of the body.

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Dr. Arden Andersen

So basically it hits 20 different muscle groups in the body. It can be all at once, or we can actually have it set. So you only have certain areas like lower extremity, upper extremity. Or we can have it set. So it actually mimics walking mimics bike riding mimics throwing mimics any activity that you may want to do

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Cary Hall

Real quickly.

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Cary Hall

Because we got about a minute left here just about when you said throwing that, that caught my attention. So you've got a young man, let's say he's in a high school college, he's a pitcher or he's an outfielder throwing a ball. Are you telling me that the 20 can help him if he if he winds up with some kind of an issue and he cannot throw or he's suffering, whatever the case may be, that the Neuro20 can come in and help resolve that issue.

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Dr. Arden Andersen

Absolutely. And Doctor Palermo, who is the, medical director for Neuro20 overall. We talked about that last week, when we saw him. And absolutely that can be done and is being done. You take any athlete, you're not going to you're not going to take an athlete who's an amateur and make them a pro. But you take a pro athlete, you can increase their efficiency.

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Dr. Arden Andersen

You can increase their strength, their accuracy by putting that suit on in that throwing motion.

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Cary Hall

That's a pretty strong testimonial, folks. You've had two doctors now talk about this in this segment. I think you'll find that there's some tremendous benefit here. We'll come back to all of this, in the next segment. So stay tuned. And if you want information, go to the website PainLabKC.com. PainLabKC.com. The phone number 816-337-8558.

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Cary Hall

They do have an open house. First Thursday of every month, 3 to 6. Stay tuned. We'll be right back after the break. You're listening to America's Healthcare Advocate Broadcasting here on the HIA Radio Network. Coast to Coast Cross, USA. Don't go anywhere.

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Cary Hall

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Cary Hall

Welcome back. You're listening to America's Healthcare Advocate show broadcasting coast to coast across the USA. Here on the HIA Radio Network. You can find out more about us by going to the website AmericasHealthcareAdvocate.com. All the shows are posted on the 15 podcast platforms and YouTube, compliments of Mister David Thiessen, our producer on that in and obviously on the Audacy side, a Darren Wilhite.

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Cary Hall

So it's up there. Now here's the thing. Okay, so you're listening to this. Maybe this is your child, you know, plays soccer. Okay. Or may or maybe it's your grandfather is suffering from he broke his hip and now he's having his mended, but he's having trouble walking. He's having real problems. What do we do about it? Well, you know, they want to do surgery.

00;20;02;12 - 00;20;25;13

Cary Hall

You want to give them medications, whatever the case may be. Your spouse. Okay. Whatever the case may be, when you hear this kind of a show, they're posted for a reason. You don't have to try to explain this to somebody. Go up to the website or go to one of the podcast platforms that we're on. Everything out there from Spotify to Rumble to Audacy to iHeart radio, you name it, we're probably on it, okay, SoundCloud, etcetera.

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Cary Hall

Same thing. YouTube channel America's Healthcare Advocate is a YouTube channel. All the shows are posted up there in their entirety. They can listen to the show. We cut it down to about 38 minutes. It's there and they'll understand what you're trying to discuss and why this could make a difference in their lives. You heard Doctor John say, this made a tremendous difference in his life, okay?

00;20;46;15 - 00;21;13;24

Cary Hall

And these are things he'd suffered with for years. So it's worth taking a look at. The website is PainLabKC.com. PainLabKC.com, the phone number 833-724-6522. All right. I'm going to start off with something a little dramatic here. I saw this article in the Wall Street Journal about a week or so ago. A 16 year old boy dead on a football field in Alabama.

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Cary Hall

Doctor?

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Dr. Arden Andersen

Absolutely. Brain trauma. And that's a problem that we see. There's thousands of young people that die every year because of brain trauma.

00;21;24;10 - 00;21;32;04

Cary Hall

So this was not a heart attack. You hear about these sudden heart attacks, these massive heart attacks that these football players that this was brain trauma.

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Dr. Arden Andersen

Absolutely. This was brain trauma. And it's not just football. There's all sports, any kind of contact sports as well as motor vehicle accidents, bicycle accidents, motorcycle accidents, all climbing accidents, all those kinds of things can give us head injuries. And you never know which person is susceptible to a fatal consequence to those head injuries. It's not the severity of the head injury that really is the indicative issue.

00;22;01;26 - 00;22;36;02

Dr. Arden Andersen

It's what is that person's biochemistry? What is the time in their life? How was the torque into the brain from that injury? All of those things come into play and you really can't predict that, okay, this certain hit is going to be fatal. We don't know. Everybody's different. Every one is different. Absolutely. And the problem is, is that we know right now in concussions for young players, about 35% of them per the research with the wavy go back to play before they really should.

00;22;36;02 - 00;22;43;22

Dr. Arden Andersen

They pass all the standard testing. But when we do a WAVi on them, we find out the brain is not really ready to return to play.

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Cary Hall

So let's take a moment here to talk about the standard testing. Basically, what they do is they're given a form to fill out and the answer the question is yes or no, am I correct? Correct. Okay. And let me tell you a little story. A lot of these kids are coached by their coaches and they're also coached by their parents.

00;22;58;10 - 00;23;09;24

Cary Hall

And then there's peer pressure to get your rear end back in there, get on the field, whether it's soccer or whether it's football. By the way, one of the worst areas of concussion protocol girls soccer, am I right?

00;23;09;27 - 00;23;32;01

Dr. Arden Andersen

Absolutely. Okay. Head butting is a big issue. Absolutely. With the ball. So it's it's a it's a problem that is now pretty much universal in our society, not just United States around the world, because contact sports are a major component of our societies. Now, obviously, soccer is the biggest one worldwide, but nonetheless it's still contact sports.

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Cary Hall

Cheerleading is absolutely that for me. Well, they were doing these studies. The cheerleading is is an issue.

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Dr. Arden Andersen

Absolutely. A lot of concussions. And in all levels of cheerleading, these kids falling, hitting their heads, falling on the ground, all kinds of problems with that absolute. Correct. So we have to understand that they are also recoverable. And a lot of these kids with the standard approaches, oil is just we just wait and see. That's not acceptable.

00;24;01;14 - 00;24;25;07

Dr. Arden Andersen

We have to be assertive in regenerating these brain problems. And the movie “Concussion” is an excellent example of the NFL trying to cover up, over time, the serious consequences of head trauma and research over time has found it's not the severity of the concussion, it's any kind of head injury in the most susceptible person that causes a problem.

00;24;25;15 - 00;24;48;22

Dr. Arden Andersen

So what we find with Neuro20, with the WAVi, this whole process that we put together, we can regenerate those processes as a retired military flight surgeon, the military has a tremendous problem with TBI and it's not being addressed adequately. So I want to give you a couple examples of these patients that we have that are just phenomenal.

00;24;48;29 - 00;25;15;05

Dr. Arden Andersen

And first of all, I also want to say what also makes us a little bit unique is that they first see me. This is a medical device. You have to have a prescription from physician to use Neuro20. They have to change their diet and they're going to go on supplementation to help regenerate the brain. Now when we give them stimulation, that brain responds.

00;25;15;07 - 00;25;42;28

Dr. Arden Andersen

And so we have a woman who's in her 60s 20 years ago, she had a, brain tumor that brain tumors removed from her right side of her head brain. She had chemotherapy and radiation. She was left looking like a right sided stroke patient. In other words, her left arm was curled up, her left hand was completely contracted and curled up her left leg and her left toes.

00;25;42;28 - 00;26;03;28

Dr. Arden Andersen

Her left foot was contracted and her toes contracted underneath her as well, and she could hardly walk. I've been working with her for a number of years, by identical hormones, getting her diet around, getting her nutrition around. She's done all every kind of physical therapy and occupational therapy, speech therapy that you can imagine that stroke patients go through.

00;26;04;05 - 00;26;33;07

Dr. Arden Andersen

And I called her a couple months ago and I said, I think we have a new treatment for you. I want you to come on in. So long story short, after the second treatment, this woman opened her left hand on her own. Her husband started crying. This was the first time in 20 years this woman was able to on her own without forcefully grabbing Ahold of her fingers to open her hand on her own.

00;26;33;10 - 00;26;58;13

Dr. Arden Andersen

And when she got home, she was able to pick up a bottle and carry it across the room in that hand without dropping it. Her gait has improved, her energy has improved, and as you can imagine, the encouragement now that this woman has that she possibly can have an improved quality of life is phenomenal. And every time.

00;26;58;13 - 00;27;03;00

Cary Hall

That all this without any surgical procedure and no medication.

00;27;03;05 - 00;27;11;28

Dr. Arden Andersen

Absolutely, absolutely correct. This Neuro20 and the nutrition and the protocol, putting her through the appropriate protocol.

00;27;11;28 - 00;27;16;27

Cary Hall

And you're measuring this because you got the brain scan that you can go back and say, we know this is improving.

00;27;16;27 - 00;27;40;17

Dr. Arden Andersen

It's absolutely correct. Absolutely. And also we're recording her. So and her husband is saying her husband is observing this and has he's her primary caretaker. He's been observing this for 20 years. And so she's changed. Typically as people age with these kind of problems, they just continue to decline. Right. She's now reversed that and she's better off than she was ten years ago.

00;27;40;23 - 00;28;01;14

Dr. Arden Andersen

Insofar as her ability to do things. Another woman we have she came in to see me and she has significant, movement of the spine. It's called spinal lathesis. One vertebrae is slipped over. On the other, she has a significant bulging disc. And so she had foot drop. The disc.

00;28;01;14 - 00;28;02;28

Cary Hall

My brother had that I know exactly what it is..

00;28;02;28 - 00;28;29;20

Dr. Arden Andersen

The disc is pushing on the nerve. She has foot drop, so she really has to be careful about walking. After the third treatment, 75% of the foot drop is gone. She's now had 6 or 7 treatments. It's completely gone and she has no back pain. She has no back pain. She is just amazed that she's now back to normal life. She's back to exercising.

00;28;29;20 - 00;28;35;21

Dr. Arden Andersen

She's back to hiking, doing all the kinds of things that she was doing before any of this happened.

00;28;35;24 - 00;29;03;15

Cary Hall

Do you see why I do these kind of radio shows? Do you understand why I'm doing this? I'm trying to bring you information you're not gonna find on your own, typically. Okay. And an opportunity for you to learn how, regardless of what the situation is, if it involves these kinds of injuries, these kinds of things that you and your loved one may be dealing with, whether it's stroke, whether it's Parkinson's, there's a whole list, okay, that we can go through with Doctor Anderson, regardless of what it is.

00;29;03;15 - 00;29;28;01

Cary Hall

If you want to find out if there's the if you can get some help without having to go through a surgical procedure or take another damn pill, maybe you ought to take a look at what they can do. The website is PainLabKC.com, PainLabKC.com. The phone number 833-724-6522. Open house. First Thursday of every month from 3 to 6.

00;29;28;01 - 00;29;43;07

Cary Hall

We'll be right back after the break. Doctors are still in the house. Stay tuned. We've got more here on America's Healthcare Advocate broadcasting coast to coast across the USA, here on the HIA Radio Network.

00;29;43;10 - 00;29;54;19

Cary Hall

Welcome back. You're listening to America's Healthcare Advocate show broadcasting coast to coast across the USA. Here on the HIA Radio Network. You can find out more about us by going to the website AmericasHealthcareAdvocate.com.

00;29;54;23 - 00;30;14;13

Cary Hall

That was pretty powerful, wasn't it? I mean, seriously, when you heard all of that, once again, the website is PainLabKC.com. You want to call and get an appointment? Just go over there. Meet with Steve. Meet with the doctor, see what they can do. Tell them what your situation is, and maybe they can help you. In fact, I'd be willing to bet they probably can help you.

00;30;14;13 - 00;30;41;06

Cary Hall

And you want to do that by calling 833-724-6522. Doctor John, you are a professional soccer player. You were a college All-American. I know that. You know, you're you're working with Steve and with Doctor Anderson to put a protocol in place to help soccer players here in the Kansas City Metro. And by the way, you know, we have one of the largest soccer organizations, multiple soccer organizations in the country, right here in the good old heartland.

00;30;41;06 - 00;30;58;09

Cary Hall

So talk a little bit about, you know, I recall when we first started doing WAVi four years ago, Steve and I and Doctor Palermo was talking to us about this product, and I was like, you know, well, the worst concussion protocol, the worst athletes you're going to have concussions are football players. And he goes wrong. It's girls soccer, Cary.

00;30;58;11 - 00;30;59;25

Cary Hall

So take it, doctor.

00;30;59;28 - 00;31;30;08

Dr. Emilio John

It is girls soccer. But I'd like to start with my very own self. This is something that happened when I was a senior in high school, 1969. I had a collision. I was trying to head the ball to score a goal, and my head was headed by another player, and I went down. And this is before they well before they knew much about concussion, went down, got up coach referee said John get up.

00;31;30;08 - 00;31;50;06

Dr. Emilio John

I got up played and next thing you know I don't remember the rest of the game. It was the first half and the second half we had the penalty and I wanted to take it. And I looked at the ball. The ball looked like it was a mile away. I was looking into the Atlantic Ocean, the stadium. We were playing at King George, the 5th stadium.

00;31;50;06 - 00;32;14;20

Dr. Emilio John

But anyway, I'm bringing this up because I wouldn't be here today. I was fortunate because after that game I ended up in the hospital. I was comatose for two days and I stayed in the hospital for ten days. This was a semifinal, and next thing you know, yeah, I ended up playing in the final. Yeah. We won. I scored two goals, but this was high school.

00;32;14;22 - 00;32;48;25

Dr. Emilio John

But the problem that I have now, and that's why I'm so very much involved with the WAVi, since Steve brought it to my attention because it's extremely valuable. I could have been. I could have been dead. I would not like I said, oh, what happened after that? For me? I've looked at life as gravy. So it's critical that when you have when you have a concussion, that we go ahead and make sure that they are tested and make sure they're ready to get back.

00;32;48;25 - 00;32;50;28

Dr. Emilio John

And that's what the WAVi is for.

00;32;51;00 - 00;33;08;26

Cary Hall

So Doctor Anderson, and to the parents who are listening, you said, do have student athletes. The best way for them to find out, number one, is not wait until they have a concussion. If you get a baseline scan done, talk a little bit about that. Why? That makes a lot of sense. If you've got a kid in any sport where there's physical contact, just chat about that a bit.

00;33;08;26 - 00;33;28;09

Dr. Arden Andersen

Absolutely. The WAVi is about a 40 minute test that gives us a baseline of what their P300 is doing, and it tells us then when we subsequently have them checked, say, at the end of the season, what's transpired in between times, and they think, oh, I didn't have any head injuries. And all of a sudden that shows up.

00;33;28;09 - 00;33;48;05

Dr. Arden Andersen

And the subsequent one you did have a head injury. We need to address that. And as well then it's more serial tests. We basically track and treat. So we look at what is it and we treat it. We recheck it again to see how much improvement have we had, and we proceed from there. Each person is an individual.

00;33;48;05 - 00;33;59;05

Dr. Arden Andersen

We look at their nutrition, we look at their supplementation. We look at what activities they're doing, get those tests in their and see how they respond. Yeah.

00;33;59;05 - 00;34;13;29

Cary Hall

And I'm gonna give you a quick example. We have another doctor that we've worked is here is Doctor Schultz, who had a hockey player out of high school, was getting ready to go to the pros. Okay. And, he'd had four concussions and he he Doctor Schultz had heard about WAVi, knew a little bit about. It reached out to us.

00;34;14;07 - 00;34;31;05

Cary Hall

The test was done when when the test came back, when we when the results from the WAVi were presented to him, that that boy was no more able to go back and play. If he had gone back, he could have put himself in danger for the rest of his life and certainly would have impacted his ability to function.

00;34;31;09 - 00;34;53;12

Cary Hall

The point is, six months later, he had recovered. We were able to again do a scan on him that showed he'd improved and they were able to get him back in track, so he was able to go play hockey. So the point is, if you know, if you have a baseline, then when something happens, you know, well, it's not normal now because what was what was green is now red is it shows up on the scan.

00;34;53;15 - 00;34;55;02

Cary Hall

You know, you've got a problem, right, doctor?

00;34;55;02 - 00;35;21;29

Dr. Arden Andersen

Correct. And it's an objective test as opposed to a subjective test, because I can tell you as having been an athlete and I know a doctor, John, the same thing. Oh, yes. I'm good to go back in, coach. Yes. I'm fine, I'm fine. And that's not an objective test. And we have to have, objective testing to show that we are actually helping the brain getting back to normal and know when it is normal.

00;35;21;29 - 00;35;23;28

Dr. Arden Andersen

So now it's safe for these children to go back.

00;35;23;28 - 00;35;33;27

Cary Hall

And. And the other thing is, with the Neuro20 suit, you can actually go back, run the scan again and see what a difference has been made from using Neuro20 versus when they started correctly.

00;35;33;27 - 00;35;56;04

Dr. Arden Andersen

Correct. Because that's our primary treatment modality along with the nutritional things, is to get that in there. We also may do some, photoluminescence treatment in there to help anything to put that whole package together to regenerate the brain. That's what we're doing. And in reality, this is really rekindled my excitement in practicing medicine again.

00;35;56;04 - 00;36;07;28

Dr. Arden Andersen

And it's something that we can do to help people. Noninvasively with a major problem in our young people and as well as our elderly.

00;36;07;28 - 00;36;11;15

Cary Hall

For those of us that are chronologically challenged, we have a lot of these kinds of issues.

00;36;11;16 - 00;36;34;16

Dr. Arden Andersen

That's correct. And and really, nothing else is being done to resolve these problems. There's a lot of treatments, but they're not resolving. They're only palliative for the most part. And I see that particularly in our veterans, they're they're just giving them suppressants. They're giving them various different antidepressants. That's correct. But I mean, that's the standard modality because they don't know what else to do.

00;36;34;16 - 00;36;51;17

Cary Hall

And it does make a difference. I want to thank you both for I know you're really busy. You've got practices and everything that you're, you know, dealing with patients and everything, for taking the time to come in here. And I want to invite you now to come back and do we'll do some follow up shows on this, because I think this message is critically important for all of you out there to be able to hear this.

00;36;51;17 - 00;37;08;13

Cary Hall

You know, we do these kinds of shows for a reason. As I always say, I'm here to educate and inform, and that's what I'm trying to do. You know, I don't care where you're listening to this show in anywhere in the country. If you want to reach out to Steve Sanborn. Okay, Paint Lab KC, you can certainly do that.

00;37;08;13 - 00;37;28;00

Cary Hall

Okay. And I'm sure they'll be happy to talk with you. Maybe there's a practice somewhere else in the country they can refer you to. Or you certainly can come to Kansas City. We've got a brand new airport. Love to have you show up. If you want help with something. But the whole idea behind us is to tell you if you think there's no hope because you've had a stroke, you've got Parkinson's, you've had an injury, your child is injured.

00;37;28;01 - 00;37;49;14

Cary Hall

Whatever the case may be, you're wrong because there is a way to do this without surgery, without meds, PainLabKC.com is the website, the phone number 833-724-6522. If you've got an issue, I urge you to take the time to go connect with these folks and see what they can do for you. And now I leave you with this thought from Doctor Martin Luther King.

00;37;49;16 - 00;38;08;00

Cary Hall

Americans must learn to live together as brothers and sisters, or we will surely perish together as fools. Truer words never spoken. Thank you for listening to America's Healthcare Advocate today. Broadcasting coast to coast across the USA. Goodbye, America.

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Cary Hall

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Cary Hall