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Episode 2018 Transcript:

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Announcer

And now America's Healthcare Advocate, Cary Hall.

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Cary Hall

Hello, America. Welcome to America's Healthcare Advocate show broadcasting coast to coast across the USA. Here on the HIA Radio Network, you can find out more about us by going to the website americahealthcareadvocate.com. You can also follow me on Facebook and Twitter at America's Healthcare Advocate. Additionally, if you are looking for Medicare health insurance and there are some changes in the marketplace here in Kansas City, you may be affected by specifically folks that are on the Blue Cross and Blue Shield plans.

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Cary Hall

You can call Carolee Steele at 913-385-2224. She'll be happy to help you with anything regarding enrolling in a new plan, or if you're moving, if you're going to be moving off of that Blue Cross plan. Also, if you're looking for group health insurance, Maria Ahlers will be happy to help you. She is also at RPS Benefits by Design at 913-385-2224.

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Cary Hall

All right. In our continuing series that we're doing here with Johnson County Sheriff Cal Hayden, welcome back.

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Sherriff Cal Hayden

Well thank you.

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Cary Hall

Glad to be. You've become a pro at this. Now this is our third before I think we've done we're good. We're continuing this series we're doing on public safety because there are some issues out there. You know, it's funny, we were kind of on a call yesterday, talked about some of this stuff and with Cal and, and, and some of the folks in his that work with him.

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Cary Hall

And it's amazing how, we, you know, we were hearing feedback from people saying, you know, I didn't know about that or I didn't know about this human trafficking issue, or I didn't know that the fentanyl issue was that big a deal, and I didn't know it was coming up I-35. Well, that's what we're doing. We're we're doing these shows to educate you and let you know that, yes, we live here in Johnson County, and it's a great place to live.

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Cary Hall

It's rated one of the top places in the country to raise a family and all the rest of it, but it doesn't make us immune from the things that are going on around the rest of the country. And the fact that we are in this I-35 corridor, which Sheriff Hayden has talked about in the past, brings this stuff into our county that we're having to deal with.

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Cary Hall

So, as I said, welcome back. Glad to have you this morning.

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Sherriff Cal Hayden

Thank you very much.

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Cary Hall

Well, let's just kind of start off with this whole 911 thing. So when I think about 911, we lived in Kansas City. My wife and I lived in Brookside for about 26 years. And the the issue in Kansas City is when you dial 911, nine times out of ten, no pun intended. you go on hold. That's absolutely correct.

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Cary Hall

You you're told that you're on a 911 call. Please stay on the line and someone will be with you. You could be on hold for three minutes. Four minutes, you know, eight, nine, ten minutes, whatever it is, as they're trying to get you to someone at that call center who's going to help you. When you contrast that with Johnson County and what Sheriff Cal Hayden's folks do, there's a significant difference.

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Cary Hall

So let's just start with that. you know how how the phones are answered here and how those 911 calls are handled. And then we'll talk about significance of those. Sheriff.

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Sherriff Cal Hayden

Well, our our staff is amazing. They just are they are all certified law enforcement officers, which I think makes a difference. and it also saves some, some resources. But when you call in Johnson County, I just got May's numbers here, and, they've got 95% of all emergency calls are answered within 10 seconds and that's just this month.

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Sherriff Cal Hayden

and that's that's less than 10s. So we've got some averages four seconds, three seconds, some of them. yeah, nine seconds. But they're all under under 10s. So that's pretty impressive.

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Cary Hall

That's that's amazing. Frankly. I mean, I had no idea, that those were the numbers, so that's extremely impressive. We're very fortunate to have that here and that kind of response time.

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Sherriff Cal Hayden

Yeah. It's a it's a it's an important, benefit to our citizens. All our guys take a look at here at this these numbers. And they took 22,257 calls, in May. So they take a lot of calls and they're answering a lot of calls in 10s or less, so that that's just their their performance.

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Cary Hall

That's kind of mind boggling. Oh 22,257 calls in the month of May. That's just one month.

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Sherriff Cal Hayden

Yeah.

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Cary Hall

That is and of that 95% or answered in 10s or less. That's, that that I'd have to say that's nothing short of remarkable.

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Sherriff Cal Hayden

Oh, it absolutely is. And they are they take their jobs very seriously. but they're unsung heroes. Now, those are the people that that, most you don't see them. They're on the radio. They're they're managing officers on the street and they're taking calls. they don't get a lot of credit for what they do, but they're the first contact we have with our public.

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Sherriff Cal Hayden

It's incredibly important that that that is done with, an appreciation for who we work for, to be courteous and get the job done. One of the things that, we talked about yesterday and, it's a brilliant analogy or exercise to, for anybody to just close their eyes and think about the worst day you've ever had.

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Sherriff Cal Hayden

you're involved in a car wreck. a loved one is fallen. someone's passed away. A child is hurt, and you want help right now? You don't want those. Those seconds count. And, we want to get somebody there as soon as we possibly can. We take almost every ambulance call that comes in and we transfer it to them.

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Cary Hall

I didn't know that.

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Sherriff Cal Hayden

That's it. We stay on the line while they're doing it. We get an address, and in our areas of patrol. We usually send an officer with an ambulance, or medic. I want to make sure that we've got, staff there in case they need us. So the our response times are under five minutes. But when you think about that five minute period of time, I've been there when you're doing CPR on somebody or you need help right now, that's an eternity, before the officers get there.

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Sherriff Cal Hayden

And we want to make sure that we're there as fast as we possibly can.

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Cary Hall

Well, five minutes pretty is pretty is pretty remarkable. It's interesting. I think if you compare that to what happens in most metropolitan areas, you'd say that that is, beyond, anything we can expect to see in most metropolitan areas around the country. So. So yeah. So let's talk about that a little bit. So, you know, you made mentioned the fact that you have law enforcement officers actually manning those phones from where I'm sitting.

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Cary Hall

That sounds really important to me because if they're if they're if there's a potential home invasion or a prowler or a medical emergency or whatever, it is, they're trained to handle that. Talk a little bit about why that's important, why that's critical.

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Sherriff Cal Hayden

It's amazing the resources it can save, because sometimes it's just a question about law. Now all of those 22,000 calls aren't 911 calls.

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Cary Hall

So people use it for it for everything under the sun.

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Sherriff Cal Hayden

They call and there's some people just want to talk. You know, we get those too. And so it takes a, a very diverse type of communication skills to do it. they've got about 6 or 7 screens in front of them. They've got a phone with probably 100 lines on it, and they are they're hooked up with a headset.

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Sherriff Cal Hayden

They're amazing. They're just.

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Cary Hall

They're just going from one call to.

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Sherriff Cal Hayden

One call to another or handling any problem. They'll do. They, your average dispatcher handles, I think about 35 officers. And the image that we try to give when they're dispatching is these, these little Hot Wheels cars hanging on strings in front of you. And when something that you can tell somebody, a really good communications officer can tell from the inflection, an officer's voice, that something's wrong.

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Sherriff Cal Hayden

And when somebody cuts that string, they catch it every time they catch it. And it is amazing. Stressful job.

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Cary Hall

Yeah, it sounds extremely stressful

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Sherriff Cal Hayden

when there's a lot of action out there. You're stuck at a desk. And if your mic under your fingernails trying to figure out what to do and the right thing and nobody, you know, nobody pays attention to it, we're getting to the point where we actually do debriefs with them after incidents and including our dispatch in that because, they're the heroes of the thing.

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Cary Hall

That's really that's quite remarkable. I mean, I had a first of all, I had no idea the volume of calls. I never would have guessed. In a million years, you're going to handle 22,000 calls in a particular month. and then the the fact that you answered that under 10s is pretty remarkable. We're going to come right back after the break.

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Cary Hall

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Cary Hall

Welcome back. You're listening to America's Healthcare Advocate show, broadcasting coast to coast across USA here on the HIA Radio Network. You can find out more about us on the website. America's Healthcare Advocate dot com. My producers today, Mr. Dave Thiessen behind the cameras, and Mr. Darren Wilhite behind the microphone here at the Audacy Studios in studio with me, Sheriff Cal Hayden.

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Cary Hall

And we're talking about safety, public safety, safety in your home, safety in your community. And what the sheriff's department here does, like answering 22,257 911 calls, in May, which is really quite remarkable. What's even more remarkable is they answered them in under 10 seconds, in 10 seconds or less. So that's, it's pretty amazing. So, you know, you said when you're sitting on hold or when you're in one of these situations, one of the things that I always think is, is I've called the sheriff's department here a couple of times.

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Cary Hall

And what what was impressive me was that person that answered that call on the phone stayed with me through, you know, through the situation that I was calling about. And I was very impressed with that. And so I'm thinking, you know, you know, there's a mother calling and she thinks there's a suspicious person around the house or something going on in the neighborhood.

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Cary Hall

That person they're talking to, as you said, is actually a law enforcement officer who's able to-- been in that situation-- and now going to calm you down and walk you through it until the sheriff's deputy arrives on the scene? Yes, yes. So talk about why is that important for people. So you don't just go, okay, well, they'll be there and you hang up and it's over with.

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Cary Hall

It's not.

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Sherriff Cal Hayden

It's not. And and we we never disconnect on you. especially with cell phones. Now, we want to make sure that we can stay in contact with that person. We don't want to lose the call once we've got it. It's crucial to make sure that that they're okay, and we're staying with them until help arrives. they take that very, very seriously.

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Sherriff Cal Hayden

But we've had incidents where, people are trying to break into their house, and the officer, tells them where to hide in the house. And are you armed? Are you not armed? What? You know, and the time and tells them how or where the officers are at when they're going to get there? We’ve got GPS now, so I can tell you it's okay.

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Sherriff Cal Hayden

Stay where you're at. Be quiet and, talks them through this incident. And I've. I've heard it back in the in the day, it took 20 minutes to get to a call and literally heard one of our officers just. They're invested in this. And when you hear, calm down, it's going to be okay. I gotcha whisper, you know, and talk people through that.

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Sherriff Cal Hayden

it's amazing. And you hear those tapes and you hear the officers doing it and and the relief when we get there with the person that's afraid.

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Cary Hall

Yeah.

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Sherriff Cal Hayden

Of course, it's just it makes it all worth it.

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Cary Hall

So let's switch gears a bit and talk about something else you mentioned this. you know, when we were on the break there, off air. When we have and we get some very interesting weather in this part of the country, God knows, you know, ice storms, hail, tornadoes, name it. you guys are the ones they call. Yes.

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Cary Hall

Okay. So talk a little bit about that because that's really that's not really what your job is, but you're doing that job anyway. So talk a little bit about that. And you know what the experience has been with that. Because you know we are kind of the epicenter for interesting weather here. Dave is shaking his head. Yes. Because we sit right in the middle of the country and we get hit from all sides.

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Cary Hall

Basically.

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Sherriff Cal Hayden

You know, we have, there's two things that dispatchers, I call them dispatchers are really not their communication. deputies. the times is they really get a ton of calls is when there's an ice storm and power goes out and everybody wants to know, you know, there's a line arcing somewhere where can we get the electric company here?

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Sherriff Cal Hayden

thousands and thousands of calls during an hour. And when the sirens go off, and especially when they go off for no reason, people, everybody calls us and they get thousands of calls, and that's okay, you know, because they're calling us for help. And the idea is we want them to do that.

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Cary Hall

Yeah. But we'll contrast that with trying to call, the utility company when your power's out. Number one, you're not going to get anybody on the phone. Typically. Number two, you know, Dave just had an experience. How long did it take you to get your power back on after the last storm?

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Dave Thiessen

A full day.

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Cary Hall

Full day. And and he wasn't being communicated with directly by the by the utility.

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Cary Hall

They they give you a voice recording. You leave a message and you hope somebody pays attention to it and gets back to you versus calling the sheriff's department where somebody is actually going to talk to you and say, hey, we're in communication with the utility company. Here's what they're telling us. The protocol is, you know, they're going to get to you when they're, you know, at such and such a time.

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Cary Hall

So you're giving a sense of at least there's some connectivity as to what's going on. Right?

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Sherriff Cal Hayden

It matters. And, you know, believe it or not, the utility companies, they answer us so when we call and say we've got a group of houses here, we try to get people as fast we can and do your problems, our problem. And, the sooner we can get those problems solved. it's all the better.

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Cary Hall

Yeah, I know you mentioned sirens and sirens here. Obviously. Go off, you know, once a week. I think it's Wednesday is testing is was Wednesday morning. Of course if you've just moved here from out of state and you're not familiar with this, if you came from California, it's not an air raid. Okay. Just so you know, it's actually a test of the tornado warning system.

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Cary Hall

So, so when those go off, people actually call you because they're not they don't maybe they haven't seen The Weather Channel. They're not paying attention to what's going on, but they're calling you directly.

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Sherriff Cal Hayden

Absolutely.

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Cary Hall

And then you guys can tell them, hey, there's a tornado headed your way. You need to take shelter, that kind of thing. Right?

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Sherriff Cal Hayden

Exactly, absolutely, absolutely.

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Cary Hall

And so you're answering all of those calls, you know, when you're dealing with all of that.

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Sherriff Cal Hayden

Yeah. The officers are amazing. Yeah. They are unsung heroes.

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Cary Hall

Yeah. It's funny because again, you know, when I think about this, that's the last thing that I think of the the sheriff's department would be dealing with or handling is people call you about the weather.

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Sherriff Cal Hayden

Yeah.

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Cary Hall

But they need a place to turn to.

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Sherriff Cal Hayden

Absolutely. And they'll call about anything. they'll call if they see smoke, off in the distance. We'll call and have somebody check it out. Yeah. Anything that doesn't look right, people call, and you know what? That that's what we do.

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Cary Hall

It's our job. Because I live not very far from heritage. This literally at the end of the block. Then there was a what look like there are farms around there and there was a huge column of smoke going up. This was last year in the summertime. And I what looked at it maybe is are they doing a burn off or what.

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Cary Hall

I this just doesn't look right. And I called and the deputy answered the phone and he said stay on. And he went and checked out some things and came back and he said, that's an authorized burn off. They're doing this controlled burn. I thought for sure this thing's out of control. It's going to roar right across heritage, you know, into our housing complex.

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Cary Hall

And we're going to have, you know, it's embers hitting the roofs and God knows what is, you know, like in California where we moved here from. That's not unusual because the, the, the brush fires there get completely out of control very quickly.

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Sherriff Cal Hayden

Thank God it's so dry.

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Cary Hall

Yeah. So yeah. So it is interesting. So so that's you know again I think you know what we're trying to do here is give an appreciation for this again. Goes back to what happened yesterday when we were on that call. We were all talking about these things, getting ready to do today's show. It's amazing what people don't know.

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Cary Hall

I had no idea that this was the volume of calls that you're taking. It didn't occur to me that you guys are the ones that people are calling when there's an ice storm. Yeah, but when you think about it, you're just like, Dave. You're not going to get utility on the phone. You're going to get a voice recording and, and then and, and then you know what?

00;17;23;14 - 00;17;33;17

Cary Hall

Where are they? Then they're going to call you and you're able to walk. It's so you know, it's interesting the role you play in the community is far greater than thinking what a lot of people recognize.

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Sherriff Cal Hayden

Well, yeah. And you know, we dispatch for 11 of our 17 cities. So I don't want to take anything away from, Overland Park has a good dispatch center. They have a great sense that they do a good job, and so does several of our, of our partners. But, we get the majority, and we probably get as many calls as anybody.

00;17;51;28 - 00;17;55;18

Sherriff Cal Hayden

Overland Park is pretty close, but I think we get more than them.

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Cary Hall

Probably considering as much as you do when we come back from the break, we're going to switch gears. Now. We're going to talk a little bit about what how this ties in this timing that we're talking about, and these 911 calls to something we talked about in the past. And that is the fentanyl situation and the overdose situation we're seeing not just with fentanyl, but also with the use of marijuana by these kids when they're getting this high THC marijuana, which we talked about in one of our previous shows, we're going to go back and tie all that together and talk more about that.

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Cary Hall

You're listening to America's Healthcare Advocate broadcasting here on the HIA Radio Network. Coast to coast across the USA. The website for Sheriff Cal Hayden is calhaydenforsheriff.com. If you want to get involved or support the sheriff in upcoming elections. Stay tuned. We'll be right back after the break.

00;18;51;14 - 00;19;11;13

Cary Hall

Welcome back. You're listening to America's Healthcare Advocate show, broadcasting coast to coast across the USA here on the HIA Radio Network. Joining me in studio today again, Sheriff Cal Hayden here in Johnson County, Kansas. He is the Johnson County sheriff. And we're talking about this is the third one in this series that we've done where we've talked about fentanyl.

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Cary Hall

We've talked about human trafficking. You know, we've talked about, you know, what the sheriff's department does here and how fortunate we are, frankly. And I mean that to have this kind of law enforcement in our county where you have response times, you know, in about five minutes and you've got phones being answered in 10 seconds or less, which is certainly not the case if you look across state line.

00;19;33;03 - 00;19;55;12

Cary Hall

For those of you that live here in the Metro, you're fully aware of that. If you've lived in Kansas City, you know the difference between what happens there and what happens here. And we certainly hope that, we're able to continue here in Johnson County with with this kind of quality law enforcement from the sheriff's department. So we're going to switch gears to how we're going to tie this 911 thing into this whole issue with fentanyl.

00;19;55;12 - 00;20;19;27

Cary Hall

And then you may recall in the previous shows, you know, Sheriff brought in samples of actual samples of drugs they had confiscated. some of those were the extremely high THC that that that one THC was it 15 or 30g of THC? The one that you provided was enough to if, if, if a kid got Ahold of that would literally knock them out, might even end up being a fatality.

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Cary Hall

Yes. And it was like these were in in what looked like off the shelf candy wrappers. Let's just talk about that a minute. There was a tragic story the other day. I cannot remember where this happened, that I read where a young man took one fentanyl tablet and he dropped dead within a matter of minutes after this happened.

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Cary Hall

So let's go to the five minute response time now. And a frantic mother calls you and says, my son or my daughter? has passed out and describes his symptoms. And the dispatcher, who is a law enforcement officer and recognizes what's going on here, says we're on the way and we're going to come with the Narcan, talk about who has it, why you have it, and why it's in all the patrol cars, what you do in the timing, Sheriff.

00;21;07;15 - 00;21;30;24

Sherriff Cal Hayden

It's a second, sir, critical in a situation like this because, an overdose of fentanyl, it's just boom. They stop breathing and they pass out and hit the floor. So what happens is our officer, gets the information, sends in a police officer to that situation, and it goes to MED-ACT and MED-ACT. If we're not giving them CPR instructions, MED-ACT is.

00;21;30;27 - 00;21;59;08

Sherriff Cal Hayden

So they have to give them some CPR while that's going on because for all practical purposes, they're they're dead. if you have Narcan at home, you can give them that dose and save that child or that person. There's no downside to it. Go out and get it. If you've got a kid or grandkid, I recommend everybody get it because you don't know what somebody is going to ingest because fentanyl is in everything and they make it look like everything.

00;21;59;10 - 00;22;23;05

Sherriff Cal Hayden

So those seconds count. if you don't have it, we're going to have you doing CPR until, our officer or MED-ACT or one of the local PD's, carry it also. and they're going to be in route as soon as they possibly can. The Narcan is Noloxone is, is what it's called. It's an injectable into your nose.

00;22;23;08 - 00;22;43;02

Sherriff Cal Hayden

there's no downside. You could any. I can spray it up my nose right now. So. Good. You have no ill effects. But if you have got an opioid in your system, it'll bring you back. When you buy it. There's two nasal, delivery devices in there. And that's because you can give it to them one time and it lasts for a little while.

00;22;43;02 - 00;23;02;09

Sherriff Cal Hayden

It's very short lived. Then you have to give another one. And when you've got a five minute response, you're probably going to use both of them. critically. It's absolutely those seconds count. Those with a heart attack too, or anything that we get to that is an emergency for you that that worst day. We need to get there and get there now.

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Cary Hall

So deputies are trained in CPR and they have all the so they, they, they're they're capable of doing CPR when they get there.

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Sherriff Cal Hayden

Yes. They're all trained certified in CPR. They have tourniquet kits, they have Narcan. they are they are prepared for all that gear they're carrying. Yeah. Is for you.

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Cary Hall

Yeah. So so that's interesting. So talk a little bit about because I don't think people are aware we talked about it on the show when we did this. But where is fentanyl available work. They have to go to the doctor and ask for a prescription. How does it work?

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Sherriff Cal Hayden

Well, fentanyl is a is is a drug.

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Cary Hall

Not for me I meant Narcan.

00;23;34;15 - 00;23;54;04

Sherriff Cal Hayden

Oh, Narcan. You can get it almost anywhere. There's there's, websites, that, you can get it for free and then go to CVS or one of the pharmacies. They're they're putting it everywhere because it's critical that people have it. especially when you don't know what you're taking, because anything could be ingested with it.

00;23;54;04 - 00;24;14;10

Cary Hall

Yeah. If the kids get it and you don't know, they they may not even know that. Well, a lot of times. And this is the other thing. Kids don't even know they're taking this stuff. They think they're taking something else to get high or party or whatever the case may be. And it turns out that that that particular item that they're taking pill, whatever it is, is not what they think it is.

00;24;14;19 - 00;24;34;27

Sherriff Cal Hayden

And that's exactly what happens here. We just, Saturday there was a 5K run, “Keeping It Clean for Coop”, and it was Cooper Davis and his mom, Libby has been lost. Him, 17 year old kid found him dead on his desk. Good kid. And, she has fought this battle and tells the story.

00;24;35;00 - 00;24;41;08

Sherriff Cal Hayden

Wonderful lady. Saving lives. it is is tragic what is happening to our youth.

00;24;41;14 - 00;24;44;16

Cary Hall

And what what what happened to him, Sheriff?

00;24;44;23 - 00;24;48;01

Sherriff Cal Hayden

They thought they were taking an Adderall. I think it was. You talked about.

00;24;48;01 - 00;24;48;24

Cary Hall

This young man on.

00;24;48;24 - 00;25;09;19

Sherriff Cal Hayden

Another broadcast, and, I think a couple of them split pill even, and one kid, it’s Cooper Cooper died, and the other kid was okay. happens all the time. I had a neighbor, this young man had, a drug issue. they found him dead in his driveway. It just. Is it? It's terrible.

00;25;09;19 - 00;25;30;01

Sherriff Cal Hayden

And there's so many people affected by this, you know, and the parents and good friends of mine, you know, just because you've got a drug issue doesn't mean that you need to die. We can't help you if you're dead. And that's that's another part of what we have to do. You know, this treatment stuff with with the drugs and the response times and all this.

00;25;30;03 - 00;25;46;26

Sherriff Cal Hayden

As sheriff, you have to look at all three legs of a stool, and it's education, about about drugs that are out there like we're doing now. It's, it's treatment. And those treatment has to be available so people can get it. We're doing that in our jail a lot. And, and enforcement and that's what we do.

00;25;46;29 - 00;26;04;04

Cary Hall

So let's go back to this fentanyl thing because, you know, mother, hears this, a father hears this, a grandparent hears it by the way, I have you you gave me the Narcan, its sitting right in our house. Good. If I, you know, God forbid, would ever need it. But people go, well, my son doesn't take drugs or my daughter doesn't take drugs.

00;26;04;04 - 00;26;26;07

Cary Hall

They're great students for in school. Here's the thing. When you when when you talk about how the stuff is packaged, talk a little bit about that. Because when you brought those samples in here, I was floored by how that stuff looked like. It came off the shelf in a in a grocery store, drug store, candy store. You know, while you're listening, you say, well, that really doesn't affect me.

00;26;26;07 - 00;26;40;18

Cary Hall

You don't know that because you don't know if they if they're given something by another kid, okay, in school or in some social setting, and they take it to talk about what, how this stuff is being distributed and what it looks like.

00;26;40;22 - 00;26;58;08

Sherriff Cal Hayden

What we're finding now, with fentanyl in my lab. Lab is just amazing with this. But, you know, they are they are giving up pill presses and they can make it look like an aspirin. They can make it look like, Adderall. they look may look like a hydrocodone pill. They make them look like anything.

00;26;58;08 - 00;27;15;17

Sherriff Cal Hayden

So anything that's not gotten through a prescription by your doctor. Don't take it. Don't take it. It's too risky. and we've got to teach that to our children. Don't touch anything they're lacing. the latest thing we're here is they're lacing, marijuana with it.

00;27;15;19 - 00;27;17;04

Cary Hall

are you are you serious?

00;27;17;04 - 00;27;19;07

Sherriff Cal Hayden

Yeah. Anything to get you addicted.

00;27;19;09 - 00;27;20;15

Sherriff Cal Hayden

That's what they're doing.

00;27;20;18 - 00;27;36;05

Cary Hall

So they're lacing the marijuana, which is, for instance, in Missouri. In Kansas City, it's legal, okay. And it's sold. It's sold through the distribution. Yet that's the licensed sale of it. But what you've got going on is the black market sale.

00;27;36;06 - 00;27;52;08

Sherriff Cal Hayden

Absolutely. There's no serial number on marijuana. I mean, I'm talking on the the marijuana that just smoke right now. We haven't run into it in any of the edibles, but you don't need it with that because the THC levels are so high. It's it's it's unbelievable.

00;27;52;13 - 00;28;05;03

Cary Hall

Well, and let's talk about that because we did this on that on that show. Before we get to break here shortly, the some of those edibles that you showed me that were packaged for children had THC levels of like 30mg per.

00;28;05;10 - 00;28;26;19

Sherriff Cal Hayden

Thousand, 1000mg, in some of the, packages of it. And they look like gummies. They're put in everything. and this is the THC. They're put in chocolate, they put it in jerky, fruit drops, like we're drinking water here. You can put a fruit drink in it. mints that you eat any. I mean, look like lifesavers.

00;28;26;19 - 00;28;29;24

Sherriff Cal Hayden

Anything that they can marketed towards children. they're putting it in.

00;28;29;24 - 00;28;46;24

Cary Hall

So if you wonder why we're doing these shows, this is exactly why we're doing it, okay? And it's important for you to understand what's out there. But you don't know what you don't know, and it could affect you and it could affect your family. That's why we're telling you based on what the sheriff is telling us, you need to have one of those Narcan kits in your home.

00;28;46;24 - 00;29;06;20

Cary Hall

You can buy it at the drugstore. You don't need a prescription, and you can get it and keep it at home. Then you're ready. If something does happen, it's out of your control. Stay tuned. We'll be right back after the break. You're listening to America's Healthcare Advocate broadcasting coast to coast across the USA. The website for the sheriff is calhaydenforsheriff.com.

00;29;06;20 - 00;29;13;10

Cary Hall

If you want to get involved, please do so.

00;29;13;12 - 00;29;31;23

Cary Hall

Welcome back. You're listening to America's Healthcare Advocate show broadcasting coast to coast across USA in studio with me today once again, Sheriff Cal Hayden Johnson County Sheriff. By the way, if you want to get involved in his campaign or help him in any way, it's calhaydenforsheriff.com. We certainly hope he stays in that office.

00;29;31;23 - 00;29;53;21

Cary Hall

And good news to deliver the leadership he's leading for Johnson County now. So let's switch gears now and talk a little bit about this I-35 thing and a little bit about gun safety is a big issue. You know, we had that very unfortunate incident here in Kansas City during the the Super Bowl parade. talk a little bit about what you're doing on gun safety.

00;29;53;23 - 00;29;59;06

Cary Hall

and, and then if people want to get licensed to carry a weapon, how does all that work?

00;30;00;00 - 00;30;06;22

Sherriff Cal Hayden

You know, gun safety is so critical. you know, people are buying guns in record numbers now.

00;30;06;22 - 00;30;07;04

Cary Hall

Oh, yeah.

00;30;07;12 - 00;30;24;10

Sherriff Cal Hayden

And, you know, they're afraid. And they're worried about what the future holds. I can't say I blame them right now. but if you're going to buy a gun, you need to go to a safety course. it's a, And you need to do it regularly and experience how to use this gun. Make sure it's empty.

00;30;24;17 - 00;30;43;26

Sherriff Cal Hayden

Go through. we offer, public, I mean, a handgun safety course where there's no gun involved. we'll have some firearms look like firearms up there to teach you how to handle them so you don't have to worry about people get all nervous when there's a real gun somewhere. So we want to. We start you out there, and we'll do that for anybody, anywhere, any time.

00;30;44;03 - 00;31;02;21

Sherriff Cal Hayden

And then we'll do some armed courses where you can go in for a gun safety and move you up. we, provide a lot of, of courses for our citizens. And please come to them. we do defensive classes for, for ladies, non bullying classes for kids.

00;31;02;23 - 00;31;03;05

Cary Hall

I didn’t know any of that.

00;31;03;11 - 00;31;22;02

Sherriff Cal Hayden

Firearms safety. Oh, yeah, it's a ball. My wife just went through it and she's she's had a couple heart attacks and she loved it. But she's, she's wiry. So, but she, and the girls go through it. They really love it. Gives us some confidence. And, you know, even the firearm stuff, they'll go through if they don't know anything about a gun.

00;31;22;02 - 00;31;25;21

Sherriff Cal Hayden

It's not to be pro-gun or anything else. No, it's not about that.

00;31;25;21 - 00;31;27;03

Cary Hall

So let's not even go there.

00;31;27;03 - 00;31;49;20

Sherriff Cal Hayden

Pro safety. Yeah. if there's a firearm around, you need to know how to. Especially if it's a gun just laying there and you know how to disarm it. And and so it's not dangerous. So that's a big deal. so we're doing a lot of that training, now concealed carry. We've got some of our officers that do that on the side because there's a charge they have to pay the state to do that.

00;31;49;22 - 00;32;00;04

Sherriff Cal Hayden

So they are doing it on the side. But we've got some excellent gun ranges around. And, I'll name a couple. We've got Center Fire there in Olathe, great group of people, Frontier Justice.

00;32;00;04 - 00;32;00;26

Cary Hall

That's a huge.

00;32;01;00 - 00;32;20;16

Sherriff Cal Hayden

Oh, there. Those guys are amazing. you know, different rifle clubs. We'll put them on state of Kansas sometimes puts on some, gun safety classes. So it's available out there. But give us a call. We'd love to have you. It's nice to show off what you own, because we all work for you. And I've got a great training crew. They are. Solid.

00;32;20;16 - 00;32;31;26

Cary Hall

So, two things I want you to go back to. So talk about this class for women on defense. What what do you what do you what what's going on there? That's really fascinating. All the ladies out there, this is something you might want to make note of.

00;32;31;26 - 00;32;57;14

Sherriff Cal Hayden

First off, there's nothing more beautiful than a woman who is secure and dangerous and knows how to handle herself. Okay, they're all dangerous, but they know how to handle themselves. but, it's a wonderful thing, and it builds confidence in them. They understand joint locks. They go through how to escape routes, a little floor-grappling. Nothing too intense where anybody gets hurt.

00;32;57;14 - 00;33;01;29

Cary Hall

A wife has had heart failure, and she's in the classes. I guess it's not too difficult to. She. She.

00;33;01;29 - 00;33;11;05

Sherriff Cal Hayden

Yeah. She had a ball, enjoyed it. And they put them on all the time. yeah. And I think it's just fantastic because who better to learn from. Right. And so how.

00;33;11;05 - 00;33;14;05

Cary Hall

Do they go up on the Johnson County website. How do they find out.

00;33;14;05 - 00;33;24;24

Sherriff Cal Hayden

About this johnsoncountysheriff.org okay. And look up for classes. we've got a number of classes they do, our training, our training group is the best of the best. I mean, they are amazing.

00;33;24;26 - 00;33;31;12

Cary Hall

That's wonderful. And then for the same thing for the gun classes, if they want to go to one of the gun classes. Same deal. All right.

00;33;31;12 - 00;33;32;14

Sherriff Cal Hayden

So please come in. They fill.

00;33;32;14 - 00;33;35;10

Cary Hall

Up quick. yeah, I bet they do. So.

00;33;35;12 - 00;33;54;29

Sherriff Cal Hayden

Yes, it's it's a fun deal. We've also got a Citizens Academy that you guys need to come to. Oh, it's a ball. it's 12 weeks long. My undersheriff Darrell Reese, who put them on as he's doing the 50th class right now, and he's done them all. It's. So it's 50 for 50. You try to get 50 people in, but we didn't make it.

00;33;55;01 - 00;34;05;29

Sherriff Cal Hayden

But, it's his 50th class, and he's just. Everybody comes through, just raves about it because, you know, he's 30, 30% of this county doesn't know the sheriff's office exists.

00;34;06;01 - 00;34;07;28

Cary Hall

That's, That's amazing.

00;34;08;00 - 00;34;24;17

Sherriff Cal Hayden

That's okay. As far as I'm concerned, because you don't need us in your business. You don't need us in your business. But if you do, we're here. And, you know, so, we always follow that that, philosophy, like Teddy Roosevelt, you know, walk softly, but carry a big stick and wear the big stick if you need us.

00;34;24;17 - 00;34;53;07

Cary Hall

Well, the nice thing is, and this is, you know, as we're wrapping up the show here today, the last thing is that they're big stick. You know, you can respond, that will respond and you can rely on. That's not always the case. And I contrast this again you know with Jackson County. And you know when I lived in Brookside, if you call the police and I made multiple calls to the police over there on different issues, you typically sat on hold for five, six, seven, eight, nine minutes, sometimes before they were actually able to come on the phone and answer the phone, which is a long time.

00;34;53;13 - 00;35;07;28

Cary Hall

If something's going on, that’s not supposed to be going on. There is a suspicious person. Whatever the case may be, we're very fortunate. You know, 22,257 calls in May answered in 10s or less. If that's not a marker for excellence, I don't know what is there.

00;35;07;28 - 00;35;08;11

Sherriff Cal Hayden

Amazing.

00;35;08;11 - 00;35;33;18

Cary Hall

Yeah. Well, I think your department's to be congratulated. And you specifically for leading that department and having this kind of quality law enforcement for the citizens here, in Johnson County and giving us that kind of response from trained law enforcement officers. These are not civilians answering that phone up there. These are trained law enforcement officers that have been through the been on the street, understand all these things as they come on.

00;35;33;20 - 00;35;35;20

Cary Hall

And I think that makes all the difference in the world.

00;35;35;27 - 00;35;55;00

Sherriff Cal Hayden

I think it does. I think it does. You know, it's a little more expensive. We got zero turnover in our dispatch center because if they get it's a stressful job. Oh, and eventually if you get tired of doing that, we can move them to another division and they'll do great there. So we don't lose people. We got a lot of officers waiting to get in there because if you can dispatch, you can do anything.

00;35;55;02 - 00;36;07;16

Sherriff Cal Hayden

I did it for a little while and I was not good at it. I was a terrible dispatcher, but, and I supervised and managed it for a while, and, they're amazing. They are just amazing people.

00;36;07;16 - 00;36;24;29

Cary Hall

Well, it's just. And again, as I said to our show, we're very fortunate to have, a sheriff's department with this kind of response times and the ability to respond when you need them and that, you know, yeah, they you never know what you're going to need help. And the good news is that you can dial that 911 number.

00;36;24;29 - 00;36;39;26

Cary Hall

You're going to get help. And it's kind of help you're going to need. So thank you again for coming in today. I think, you know, we're doing a lot to educating folks here in Johnson County about what the sheriff's department does. Once again, if you want to get involved, it's calhaydenforsheriff.com.

00;36;40;02 - 00;36;56;14

Cary Hall

You know, like I said I'm doing these shows for educational purposes. So all of you out there can understand the issues that are facing us. We have a tendency because we live here in this cocoon called Johnson County, to think that, you know, all the crime and all the issues are on the other side of state line. They're not okay.

00;36;56;14 - 00;37;12;19

Cary Hall

They're right here in our neighborhood. They're just not nearly as visible a lot of times, as they should be. If you know the old saying, if you see something, say something, that's when you dial the 911 number and ask for one of the sheriffs to deal with it in whatever way needs to be done. So thank you again for listening today.

00;37;12;21 - 00;37;28;20

Cary Hall

And now I leave you with this thought from Albert Einstein, the one who follows the crowd, will usually get no further than the crowd. The one who walks alone will find himself in places no one has ever been. Remember, friends, it's a funny thing about life. If you refuse to accept anything but the very best, you most often get it.

00;37;28;27 - 00;37;34;07

Cary Hall

Thank you for listening to America's Healthcare Advocate broadcasting coast to coast across the USA.

00;37;34;08 - 00;37;38;22

Cary Hall

Goodbye America.

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